Beijing killing cats for the Olympics

topic posted Thu, April 24, 2008 - 2:18 PM by  Nicole♫
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Nicole♫
Canada
  • Re: Beijing killing cats for the Olympics

    Thu, April 24, 2008 - 2:35 PM
    yet ANOTHER reason why I'm boycotting chinese products. They have such ill-regard towards life of any kind, it makes me sick. people.tribe.net/mspurity/...96d96801d7
    • Re: Beijing killing cats for the Olympics

      Thu, April 24, 2008 - 3:49 PM
      Here is what I posted to your blog:

      "And this is the central problem for animal welfare in China: its ruling elite is brutally repressive and cares little for animals.

      Centuries of rule by tyrannical emperors and bloody dictators have all but eradicated the Buddhist and Confucian respect for life and nature."

      Where there is no respect for one's other human beings and rampant oppression, other animals will be even less fortunate--it's like the dynamics of domestic abuse. Say dad takes it out on mom and the kids, mom takes it out on the kids, the kids take it out on the pets.

      It also serves a militaristic state to be teaching the kids lack of empathy for life.

      This isn't about Chinese culture as much as what China has sunk to after years of brutal control.
      • Re: Beijing killing cats for the Olympics

        Thu, April 24, 2008 - 5:30 PM
        I'm of the "personal responsibility" camp. Regardless of what their government is like, they have the ability to *choose* not to torture and kill animals and they have the ability to *choose* not to enjoy the brutality towards animals. Their government doesn't force them to do these things like it forces them to do so many other things. This is what they choose to do. They need to take responsibility for that rather than blame some other entity, whether it's another person or a government.

        I still choose to boycott Chinese made products.
        • Re: Beijing killing cats for the Olympics

          Thu, April 24, 2008 - 5:45 PM
          Well I wouldn't claim that those who visit the "entertainment" you blog about are not responsible--at least the adults certainly. They certainly can afford the entertainment and are not of the poor and uneducated class, they have some privelege within China. I just want to draw a careful distinction between what is going on and Chinese/Asian culture(s). You certainly don't see similar barbarities in Taiwan and Hong Kong.

          Unfortunately I have seen complaints of what goes on in China, whether it's animals or poorly made and toxic products, turn into veiled if not out-right racism or at least stereotypes of Asians and Chinese in particular. (examples can be found on Itchmo forums by those posting to articles, the forum owner is Chinese American himself--if the mods didn't delete them). It was severely rampant during the toxic pet foods incidents.

          I am not accusing you personally at all of racism. Let's just say I am being preemptive...(to others who might think such things in relation to entire people/s and their culture/s, as the Chinese within the nation of China are certainly not all homogenous or even the same culturally).
          • Re: Beijing killing cats for the Olympics

            Thu, April 24, 2008 - 6:34 PM
            Well, whatever... it still absolutely sucks that this is happening. I don't think it is racist to say WTF is going on over there? There are plenty of animal rights people in China, they know what is going on and they are doing their best to stop this, so I dont believe its a cultural thing.
            I say its a short sighted over zealous government thing. ( know any other governments like that in the world? I could think of a few..)

            Hope they know what to do about the upcoming vermin population explosion coming their way real soon. And if it were to happen before the Olympics...

          • Re: Beijing killing cats for the Olympics

            Thu, April 24, 2008 - 9:11 PM
            <Well I wouldn't claim that those who visit the "entertainment" you blog about are not responsible--at least the adults certainly. They certainly can afford the entertainment and are not of the poor and uneducated class, they have some privelege within China.>

            Actually my remark about personal responsibility wasn't specific to the "entertainment" but also to the brutal killing of cats and dogs in the news recently.

            <I am not accusing you personally at all of racism. Let's just say I am being preemptive...(to others who might think such things in relation to entire people/s and their culture/s, as the Chinese within the nation of China are certainly not all homogenous or even the same culturally).>

            No reason to be preemptive. =P

            I'll admit that on the blog I said I'd never support that culture, and now that I reread it I realize how you might think I was being racist. I apologize for that since how you read it isn't really what I meant. Let me see if I can try and explain this without becoming too convoluted. It should have been more along the lines that I would never support a country that not only allows that sort of abuse, but actually promotes it to the point where there are places where people can legally "enjoy" these atrocities. When the country promotes these activities it creates it's own "culture" of people that pass this disregard for life down to their children. This doesn't mean that everyone that is a certain race is part of this culture. Kind of similar to the dog-fighting culture which includes people of all races, but is a culture in and of itself.

            Boycotting Chinese products is my way of telling China (the government) that as a consumer I will not stand for what they do, whether its towards animals or humans. If the UK did similar things, I'd boycott their products too.
    • Re: Beijing killing cats for the Olympics

      Thu, April 24, 2008 - 3:53 PM
      Ugh - can we just Boycott them all together?? Basically NO Human RIghts - and now this. Just Shameful.
      • Re: Beijing killing cats for the Olympics

        Fri, April 25, 2008 - 8:48 AM
        I'm nauseous
        • Re: Beijing killing cats for the Olympics

          Fri, May 2, 2008 - 9:01 AM
          Try checking the history of different things done in the name of the Olympics. Here in the US, when the Olympics were being held in Atlanta, the city had a campaign to clear the streets of all visible signs of homeless people as they felt it would show the US in a bad light.
          • Re: Beijing killing cats for the Olympics

            Tue, May 6, 2008 - 11:38 AM
            Reasons to boycott the chineses olympics

            The cat story kills me This alone stands out as a crime against our beloved felines. All you have to do is look into an there eyes to understand that they dont deserve this.

            Over fishing and a almost complete destruction of animals within the chinese borders. Just look for articles on the Baiji dolphin which is gone from the Yangtzee river. Hong kong is terrible for its over fishing

            What they are doing to the people in Tibet. Cmon people these are human beings.

            The displacement of millions of people over the the three gorge dam. And the uncaring attitude towards there demise.

            Thes are just a few. And I know that many countries do wrong, I mean look at ours But it doesnt give china the right to hold an olympic event which is suppose to support national awareness

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