Help! Mystery Illness !

topic posted Mon, January 21, 2008 - 7:09 PM by  Super Amanda
My one and half year old, 17 pound, Himalayan Persian neutered male cat, always active and healthy, started acting extremely lethargic and sleeping heavily about three days ago.

He is still drinking water, eating small amounts of food and using the litter box normally. Walking is normal, it's just as if everything is slowed.

We took him into he vet's emergency room yesterday when his eyes looked unresponsive during one of his mega naps. Ironically in the car both ways and being examined he was very alert and like his usual self.
The Vet determined he had no throat, colon, bladder blockages and that his eyes/pupils seemed fine. He was running a temperature though. Unable to afford blood work we are waiting a few days to see if he gets better before breaking the bank. It's baffling because he is NOT vomiting, no bowel issues and his pupils are fine.
He is swallowing more then usual like one would with strep throat. Mainly his complete lethargy has us very concerned. Please help with any possible ideas as to what it could be. We are not sure what could have dulled is usually responsivenesses.
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Super Amanda
SF Bay Area
  • Re: Help! Mystery Illness !

    Tue, January 22, 2008 - 12:17 PM
    Some kind of infection seems likely, and if the vet had noticed any wounds or abscesses he would have told you. (Don't you hate how they act perfectly normal at the vet? What great actors these guys are, lol!) So it's probably an internal thing. Just like us, having a fever makes you lose your appetite and be very tired and slow. It's a sad fact that expensive blood tests are required for most things now before they'll attempt a diagnosis or prescribe anything; if you do have to go back and they offer you an option of in-house or outside lab testing (outside takes days longer), be sure to check the difference in price as, surprisingly, in-house can cost hugely more than an outside lab. He's really young so luckily, this probably rules out a lot of things and that's good. As long as he is eating some food, it won't hurt him to eat somewhat less for a few days as 17 pounds is really a lot for a cat who's not even 3 years old yet. (If he stops eating, though, his being overweight can lead to a condition called hepatic lipidosis, which is bad - so don't let him stop eating for more than a couple of days tops before getting some food into him by any means necessary).

    I suppose you've thought and thought about any little precipitating event that might have happened in the day or two before this started. Infections in young boy cats are often bladder infections so do keep an eye on his litter box behavior, a really sharp eye. Is he sitting there longer to pee, is he going back soon afterwards, is he squatting anywhere else in the house? Still, I haven't seen my guys get lethargic with these. But, most likely they are going to want a urine test too. Then after the results are back, if bacteria are found, they may want to do a sensitivity culture, this costs maybe $65 more. If this is just too much $ for you they might let you skip this. They'll still most likely to begin with whatever antibiotic is standard for the type of infection found, but if the infection should recur later, my vet will simply try another antibiotic from the sensitivity list instead of making me go thru the whole expense of tests again, and to save time too. That's the only advantage I've gotten from doing sensitivity tests so far.
    You're looking at probably over $200 for tests - if they become necessary. Hopefully he'll get better on his own and just have a passing bug, but I can tell you're not going to take any unnecessary risks with him.
    • Re: Help! Mystery Illness !

      Tue, January 22, 2008 - 4:56 PM
      He's better today and we are dropper feeding him milk. I can't thank you enough for all of your advice.
      • Re: Help! Mystery Illness !

        Fri, January 25, 2008 - 3:09 PM
        It's been a week and still his only symptom is lethargy and soreness which means he was most like hit with blunt force. He's going to be ok but wow what a scare! Let's all kiss our cats today and everyday :)
        • Re: Help! Mystery Illness !

          Fri, January 25, 2008 - 3:15 PM
          Oh that is good news - poor guy, I wonder what happened? Oh I just remembered, once a cat of mine got attacked by a cat that came by - not a fight or anything. The strange cat just ran at him and then flew through the air and kicked him in the side with both rear legs - like something out of a Chinese martial arts film. And luckily I came out right then and chased him off. But poor Pumpkin was miserable and slow and very sore for a week, too.
          • Re: Help! Mystery Illness !

            Mon, January 28, 2008 - 3:53 PM
            Wow poor Pumpkin, glad he's ok :)


            Willie is slowly getting better but it looks like he was run over or hit by a bike as there are hundreds parked by where I live. I read a post from a forum by a women who had the exact same situation/symptoms and spent 700.00 to still find no diagnosis.

            Once again and thanks and best wishes to all on tribe and their wonderful cats-where would we be without them?
  • Re: Help! Mystery Illness !

    Wed, January 30, 2008 - 2:27 PM
    I'm glad to hear he's getting better, however, please be sure to keep a good eye on him. If lethargy returns, or if he's running a fever again, or if he appears to be losing weight, I would see if I could find a way to have some blood tests done. Is it possible for you to weigh him once every couple days? If you don't have an animal scale, you can always step on a scale, record your weight, then step on the scale with the cat in your arms and subtract your weight from the total (to get the cat's weight).
    • Re: Help! Mystery Illness !

      Thu, January 31, 2008 - 6:07 PM
      Save up money or search the web fr pet health insurance because =you want to catch whatever is going on with kitty early on. Is the cat food fresh? Is the cat farting a lot?
      • Re: Help! Mystery Illness !

        Sat, February 2, 2008 - 12:37 PM
        I just wanted to thank everyone on Myspace, Blogger and Yahoo Answers for their support when my beloved 18 month old cat Willie was very ill with a mystery aliment these past two weeks. I was actually worried that he'd 'drop the body' the same day as Meher Baba did, January 31st. I guess with Willie that means "drop the pelt!"
        But in the best 48 hours he's almost back to his normal grumpy but charming Himalayan self.

        MY LOVE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS!

        Willie has made a miraculous and almost overnight recovery after round the clock care and a wonderful seemingly angelic Vet who made a house call this past Wednesday.

        As many of you are also loving cat owners with limited funds (I spent about $220./150quid but easily could have pushed $700.00/400 quid with tests, X rays and meds)

        I thought I'd include some of the lessons and experiences that helped me help Willie.
        the internet has too many 'pay to find the answer' websites for desperate pet owners so I thought I would add this for free. I hope it helps someone, this advice is not a replacement in anyway for a professional vet.

        Symptoms: Willie showed absolutely NO vomiting, diarrhea or intestinal distress. He could barely walk but was able to get to the litter box even if he had to be helped.
        It looks like he suffered blunt force trauma as both vets who checked him out found a temperature and he had a lot of soreness but no other symptoms apart from his terrifying lethargy and virtual unresponsiveness much of the time.

        Here is what I did right and what I did wrong that can hopefully help you out if you ever have a cat who is dealing with similar circumstances and you do not have hundreds of dollars to spend.

        1. We watched him around the clock and fed him by hand and kept him hydrated with a plastic dropper (Do not use glass EVER!) when he was too weak. He drank warm milk, water and ate wet food by hand and crunched on Science Diet , one nugget at a time sometimes while he was lying down. His appetite was thankfully very good plus he had some extra eight on him.
        We fell behind on sleep something fierce but it was worth it. I should have brought his litter box to him much earlier so recommend as soon as you realize you cat is in distress and needs TLC that you confine him to one clean room with everything he needs close by.

        2. He had a fever and I kept him warm which was a mistake. If they are feverish they need to run cool so a clean soft blanket that they can stretch out and move his body freely as he starts to stretch again. Tucking him in with his own blanket is not needed nor is a cat bed that might confine his sore kitty limbs. I also let him stay in one place all day when he needed to moved at least every few hours (like rolling over a bed ridden person) to keep his limbs from getting too stiff. Picking up and carrying a sick cat is a delicate art too, do NOT scoop them up like a baby instead scruff them and hold their chest allowing their lower limbs and backside to be free. Google to see how it's done properly.

        3. Because he had a fever I should have given him antibiotics much sooner. As soon as he started a course he started to get better simultaneously. The first vet I saw was asking huge prices for meds and blood tests. About a week and half later when Willie was actually getting worse and even had an infected eye lid because of being unable to groom, I found a fully accredited vet who made a house call , checked him out, mixed amoxicillion right there and gave me eye drops for 45.00/25 quid (incredible) about a quarter of the emergency vet's fee. Ask around.

        4. Regarding pain medication and cats, especially young ones he did NOT get any and I'm glad as it's not a good idea because they have such a small body weight. There is a massive misinformation on the net and the vet told me only HALF A BABY ASPIRIN every four to five days nothing more but that was ideally for older cats or serious pain issues. You don't want your get getting injured because of being unable to feel how much pain he may or may not be in as he recuperates.

        5. Positive thinking. This little guy (actually about 16 pounds of him!) healed himself by purring a lot which cats do when they are not only happy but in extreme distress and by coming back when he was injured. I still have no idea when but because he did return and not go hide outside somewhere we were able to help him Which brings me to the fact that he is now officially indoors as it's simply a safer alternative to having my kitty friend injured by a bike or car.

        Alright everyone that's it thanks again. To anyone out there with an ailing pet my prayers and best wishes go out to you.

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